Hello! I think that definitely most of you have heard about an attempted terror attack against George Bush during his visit to Israel in January. You know, that doesn't surprise me at all that two of the six suspected terrorists were... citizens of Israel! Actually, I wouldn't even be surprised if somebody tells me that these two had been trained by Mossad.
Generally speaking, in Israel, not only politicians but also people in the street began to understand that the USA is by far not a friendly state to Jews and Israel. Even more than that, the USA is a traitor to the Israeli nation!
During the World War II US AF made not a single attempt to destroy the rail line that was used to take deliver Jews to Oswiecim.
Nowadays, the USA keeps equipping the army of Egypt with modern weapons, while the only opposing side to Egypt in the region is Israel!
To crown it all, there is a myth I'm going to dispell, saying that there is grand financial support of Israel by the USA. In fact, this "financial support" does not exceed the total of private donations of American Jews to Israel!
Bringing together all what I said, I think there is no reason for Israel to be US agent in the Middle East any more. Being America's obedient puppet is not worth the trouble. Take care!

and america sends millions if not billions of dollars in aid to israel every year.

fuck israel. it has been nothing but a pain in the ass to the world as well as the middle east. i'm not talking about the people in general but the governments.

and america sends millions if not billions of dollars in aid to israel every year.

Around 4 billion a year.

And the fact that that amount of financial support 'does not exceed the total of private donations of American Jews to Israel' is meaningless to the discussion of whether or not the U.S. backs Israel.

It does so to the hilt.

Nowadays, the USA keeps equipping the army of Egypt with modern weapons, while the only opposing side to Egypt in the region is Israel!

That is because America --as it is being run at present and has been being run for many decades-- is a cold blooded arms-selling whore out to reap the highest profits that it can, caring nothing whatsoever as to how many innocent people may get slaughtered in the crossfire.

America, in the most callous act imaginable, sells weaponry to both sides in virtually every conflict and has done so since the days of WWII, and probably before.

Generally speaking, in Israel, not only politicians but also people in the street began to understand that the USA is by far not a friendly state to Jews and Israel. Even more than that, the USA is a traitor to the Israeli nation!
LOL - whatever, bozo. You'd be lambs to the slaughter if it weren't for us. IOW, we're the only reason your precious little dot of a nation is still around.

On that note, you've made us countless enemies all over the world, and with comments like yours here, I wouldn't necessarily object to feeding them your heart.

In fact, this "financial support" does not exceed the total of private donations of American Jews to Israel!
FYI - America gives them that opportunity.

Hello! I think that definitely most of you have heard about an attempted terror attack against George Bush during his visit to Israel in January. You know, that doesn't surprise me at all that two of the six suspected terrorists were... citizens of Israel! Actually, I wouldn't even be surprised if somebody tells me that these two had been trained by Mossad.
Generally speaking, in Israel, not only politicians but also people in the street began to understand that the USA is by far not a friendly state to Jews and Israel. Even more than that, the USA is a traitor to the Israeli nation!
During the World War II US AF made not a single attempt to destroy the rail line that was used to take deliver Jews to Oswiecim.
Nowadays, the USA keeps equipping the army of Egypt with modern weapons, while the only opposing side to Egypt in the region is Israel!
To crown it all, there is a myth I'm going to dispell, saying that there is grand financial support of Israel by the USA. In fact, this "financial support" does not exceed the total of private donations of American Jews to Israel!
Bringing together all what I said, I think there is no reason for Israel to be US agent in the Middle East any more. Being America's obedient puppet is not worth the trouble. Take care!

Can you post a picture with a sign that read stop supporting Israel. Hold it up in your town square with all your friends behind you. I think you'll get what you want.

I would love for US to stop supporting Israel. When we were attacked on 9-11, I heard many Americans (including myself) "this is not our war". Its between the Jews and the Muslims. Let them duke it out and let's see who is left. This is a normal process in history.

Bu supporting Israel, we are being dragged down into this "religion", "holy land" crap.

Haha, nice one Prae, your a true nationalist, you dont like anyone, well done man.

I would love for US to stop supporting Israel. When we were attacked on 9-11, I heard many Americans (including myself) "this is not our war". Its between the Jews and the Muslims. Let them duke it out and let's see who is left. This is a normal process in history.

Bu supporting Israel, we are being dragged down into this "religion", "holy land" crap.

This is a bit of fresh air Mesk, well done.
Its about time you guys woke up to the Israeli con game.
For way too long these people have played on Old Testament rhetoric and the Holocost to squeeze every last drop of finance outta Washington, and successive Administrations have simply wrote the cheques, and basicly backed Jerusalem on every issue, the last example being the US blocking any denounciation of the Isreali invasion of Southern Lebanon.

They put the region back to the stone age, and still never got those two poor kids back, at the time.

There are signs that attitudes in DC are changing, to me this is the most fundamental issue in the 'War on Terror', to bring a just peace between Israel and The Palestinians.

This is a bit of fresh air Mesk, well done.
Its about time you guys woke up to the Israeli con game.
For way too long these people have played on Old Testament rhetoric and the Holocost to squeeze every last drop of finance outta Washington, and successive Administrations have simply wrote the cheques, and basicly backed Jerusalem on every issue, the last example being the US blocking any denounciation of the Isreali invasion of Southern Lebanon.

They put the region back to the stone age, and still never got those two poor kids back, at the time.

There are signs that attitudes in DC are changing, to me this is the most fundamental issue in the 'War on Terror', to bring a just peace between Israel and The Palestinians.
for all the things that we've thrown money at for the last 60 years, the only thing that's born fruit is Israel and the Cold War.

for all the things that we've thrown money at for the last 60 years, the only thing that's born fruit is Israel and the Cold War.
Forget about the Cold War for the minute.
What benefit has the United States got from 60 years of blind support of Israel ?

Forget about the Cold War for the minute.
What benefit has the United States got from 60 years of blind support of Israel ?
it's not that we've gotten anything out of it, it's that anything good has come of it.

they turned a desert wasteland into a garden. we should have gave them all of Nevada instead of just Las Vegas to Bugsy.

it's not that we've gotten anything out of it, it's that anything good has come of it.
Tell that to the millions of Palestinian refugees living in tents.
Tell it to the million plus living in the shithole called Gaza.
Tell it to the 'lucky ones' who are allowed access to Israel [they're own country] everyday to work for nickles and dimes, and treated in a degrading fashion while doing so.
Maybe the families of 9/11 should be asked, was it worth it.

they turned a desert wasteland into a garden. we should have gave them all of Nevada instead of just Las Vegas to Bugsy.

With the funding and the freebies they have recieved, you could turn the moon into a garden of Eden.

Tell that to the millions of Palestinian refugees living in tents.
Tell it to the million plus living in the shithole called Gaza.
Tell it to the 'lucky ones' who are allowed access to Israel [they're own country] everyday to work for nickles and dimes, and treated in a degrading fashion while doing so.
Maybe the families of 9/11 should be asked, was it worth it
the Arab citizens of Israel are unique-until Iraq was liberated, they were the only Arabs in the middle-east that got to vote.

Haha, nice one Prae, your a true nationalist, you dont like anyone, well done man.
Well, can you BELIEVE what that clown had to say!?!?! Unreal. :@@:

the Arab citizens of Israel are unique-until Iraq was liberated, they were the only Arabs in the middle-east that got to vote.

That may or may not be.
The point is, they are hated by they're fellow Arabs and especially Palestinians.

They are simply used by the Israelis to show the world how they aint a racial, religious state,but fool no one.

Well, can you BELIEVE what that clown had to say!?!?! Unreal. :@@:

To be honest-NO.

Sadly I found myself scanning the Jeru Post for signs, like a dick :(

With the funding and the freebies they have recieved, you could turn the moon into a garden of Eden.
They don't receive much money from us at all, Paul. Many other nations in the region get more.

In typical American fashion, the only thing we did was foster their industry. IOW, we steered them towards democracy, and gave them the means to protect themselves from people who've made countless attempts on their lives.

Oh, and I like to give 'em a pass because they've developed some of the best tactical weapons I've seen in the last 20 years. :)

That may or may not be.
The point is, they are hated by they're fellow Arabs and especially Palestinians.

They are simply used by the Israelis to show the world how they aint a racial, religious state,but fool no one.
and if those "Palestinians" hadn't moved out of the way of the glorious Arab armies, they'd be the majority now. they screwed the pooch on that one.

They don't receive much money from us at all, Paul. In typical American fashion, we fostered their industry, steered them towards democracy, and gave them the means to protect themselves from people who've made countless attempts on their lives.

Oh, and I like to give 'em a pass because they've developed some of the best tactical weapons I've seen in the last 20 years. :)

That is all true. America put them on a pedestal where they are now the mightiest nation on Earth, for they're size.
They have a lot to thank the US for, tho I always get the feeling, they use you guys, its a one sided friendship.

Im convinced Mossad know more about radical Islam than radical Islam knows, yet they drip feed info to your guys.

It came out in the Knesset recently that they knew Saddam had NO WMDs before the invasion, yet they used the situatin to obtain the Patriot missile system, thanks to Uncle Sam.

There is evidence they had forehand knowledge of 9/11 before the attack.

It all seems very cloudy to me, they simply dont play the game.

and if those "Palestinians" hadn't moved out of the way of the glorious Arab armies, they'd be the majority now. they screwed the pooch on that one.
When there is an Army heading towards ya, it doesnt matter who they are, you move.

I havnt seen Israel accomadating what you describle as they're fellow citizens as of yet.

They have a lot to thank the US for, tho I always get the feeling, they use you guys, its a one sided friendship.
Actually, I think that's true to a degree, but then again, who doesn't use us?
It all seems very cloudy to me...
Well, you're not alone on that one - it's a very complicated situation.

That is all true. America put them on a pedestal where they are now the mightiest nation on Earth, for they're size.
They have a lot to thank the US for, tho I always get the feeling, they use you guys, its a one sided friendship.

Im convinced Mossad know more about radical Islam than radical Islam knows, yet they drip feed info to your guys.

It came out in the Knesset recently that they knew Saddam had NO WMDs before the invasion, yet they used the situatin to obtain the Patriot missile system, thanks to Uncle Sam.

There is evidence they had forehand knowledge of 9/11 before the attack.

It all seems very cloudy to me, they simply dont play the game.
Saddam's mobile Scud launchers never were found.

Actually, I think that's true to a degree, but then again, who doesn't use us?
Heres the difference.
Take somewhere like Ireland, US companies have dragged it out of the Third World, and made it one of the Worlds richest nations, however, those businesses came to make money, and will someday leave to turn a profit elsewhere, fair enough.
With Israel, the money is pumped in with zero return on the capital.
Its a bottomless pit.

Saddam's mobile Scud launchers never were found.
No, maybe you should ask the USAF were they left the wreckage then.
Point is, Israel knew there was nothing in those scuds but explosives.

No, maybe you should ask the USAF were they left the wreckage then.
Point is, Israel knew there was nothing in those scuds but explosives.
a high explosive warhead leaves you just as dead when it lands on your head.

a high explosive warhead leaves you just as dead when it lands on your head.
It does, but we're not atlking about that.
What the Israelis done was to take advantage of the situation. Threatened to strike Iraq if the US didnt protect them, in the full knowledge they had no WMDs.

How you can defend this peoples actions is beyond me.

It does, but we're not atlking about that.
What the Israelis done was to take advantage of the situation. Threatened to strike Iraq if the US didnt protect them, in the full knowledge they had no WMDs.

How you can defend this peoples actions is beyond me.
because your guess at their actions is pure speculation.

because your guess at their actions is pure speculation.
Speculation about what ?

http://news.scotsman.com/warniniraq/British-officers-knew-on-eve.2500388.jp

Speculation about what ?

http://news.scotsman.com/warniniraq/British-officers-knew-on-eve.2500388.jp
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zzzzzzzz I hate 404s.
Anyway the gist being that Mossad knew that Saddam had no WMDs, they informed the British on eve of invasion, but by then it was too late.

zzzzzzzz I hate 404s.
Anyway the gist being that Mossad knew that Saddam had no WMDs, they informed the British on eve of invasion, but by then it was too late.
it's never too late. and if you'll forgive me, but until i can check out their sources, it's speculation at best, or disinformation. don't believe everything you read.

don't believe everything you read.

Isnt that what your doing ?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2004/feb/04/iraq.israel