http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/01/bidens-draft-deferments-equal-cheneys-during-vietn/


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And since you didn't care about Cheney's deferrments, the obvious question is: So What?

The same reason Palins daughters pregnancy bothers you and overdose I guess.

But you are right, I do not care about Bidens deferments. Not everyone is cut out for military service. Take you for example. I jsut like to point out democrat hypocrisy, since that seems to be all the rage now.

And since you didn't care about Cheney's deferrments, the obvious question is: So What?

So are you saying Cheney's deferrements are irrelevant (in which case you'd be saying you and your merry crowd of kooks were wrong) or Biden's deferrments are irrelevant (in which case you and your crowd are hypocrites)? :cool:

Do tell.

Funny isnt it. I said Cheneys were irrelevant, and I say Bidens are irrelevant. I just wanted those who made cheney out to be traitor in cheif #1 to have to face the piper. Especially since Biden is one heartbeat away from the oval office and all.

The same reason Palins daughters pregnancy bothers you and overdose I guess.

Her daughter's pregnancy doesn't bother me one bit.
It is Sarah Palin's wrongheaded positions that bother me.


But you are right, I do not care about Bidens deferments.

So you are just being a hypocrite.

So are you saying Cheney's deferrements are irrelevant

No, that is what you said which is why it is the height of hypocrisy for you to whine about Biden's deferments now.

And the deferrments were only relevent because Cheney is such a war monger.

If Biden starts pushing to start new wars then you might have a point but as it stands you are just another hypocritical right wing a-hole.

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Who is whining about Bidens deferments? I could give a rats ass about them. If he wated to scam his way out of Vietnam the same way Cheney did that is on his own conscience.

YOU are the one who made a big deal about deferments. So now that the most qualified VP guy EVER has the same ammount as Darth Cheeny, we just want to see what kind of spin you will put on it. I see that you are falling back on the war thing. It is OK to get deferments if you are against war, just like it is OK to have kids who have kids if you are pro condom. You people (hard line democrats) are so pathetic, and predictable.

Take a chill pill dharma, no reason to be calling anyone an a-hole.

It is OK Pagan. A nerve has been touched. He is bound to jump a bit.

And the deferrments were only relevent because Cheney is such a war monger.
You are aware that Obama plans to send more troops to Afghanistan, right? Wouldn't that make him and Biden "chickenhawks"?

Serving in a war is not a prerequisite to sending the military to war.

But if Obama sends troops somewhere it is "good judgement"

Take a chill pill dharma, no reason to be calling anyone an a-hole.

Ok Vile.
I am not even upset. I am just calling it as I see it.
I was actually thinking of something else and I opted for 'a-hole' to be nice.

You are aware that Obama plans to send more troops to Afghanistan, right?
Wouldn't that make him and Biden "chickenhawks"?
No.
We already have troops there. He is not invading a new country.


Serving in a war is not a prerequisite to sending the military to war.
I know.
The founders purposely put a civilian in charge of the military.

No.
We already have troops there. He is not invading a new country.
How does that make a difference? Isn't the criticism levelled at "chickenhawks" that they're willing to send troops to the battlefield without ever having served themselves? Wouldn't Obama and Biden be doing just that?

But if Obama sends troops somewhere it is "good judgement"In this case it is good judgment. I think Obama's policy on Afghanistan is spot-on.

How does that make a difference?
Are you serious? I think it is obvious.

It is the difference between starting a fight and ending a fight.
The chickenhawk is the sending troops out to start fights.
All Obama is doing is proposing a way to end the fight Bush and the Republicans started.

Are you serious? I think it is obvious.

It is the difference between starting a fight and ending a fight.
But he's not going to end it. He plans to continue it and even expand it. He'll be rotating troops in and out of the country, and increasing the overall number of troops. Using words like those used to criticize the so-called chickenhawks, he'll be sending others to their deaths without ever having served himself.

But he's not going to end it.
Obama will end it sooner and more responsibly than John McCain is likely to and that is what matters to me.

I never expected Obama to end it immediately. That is part of the reason I supported John Edwards at first. So long as his goal is to end it, which is different from the stated goals of the people from the PNAC, that is what matters to me.

I think if it were up to Joe Biden, he would end it even sooner than Obama would, but he knows it isn't up to him right now.

And the deferrments were only relevent because Cheney is such a
war monger.

We all know you meant to say republican.

Are you serious? I think it is obvious.

It is the difference between starting a fight and ending a fight.
The chickenhawk is the sending troops out to start fights.
All Obama is doing is proposing a way to end the fight Bush and the Republicans started.

and how many deaths before the left wing heat forces him to cut and run to save his own poll numbers like Clinton did in Mogadishu in 1993? I will always hate him for that move. I lost a friend that day and the way I see it he died for nothing thanks to some chickenshit politician trying to stay afloat in the polls. If he had any balls he would have said screw the polls and sent in the cavalry, so to speak.

That's a major problem with the system these days. Politicians worry and spend so much of their time and resources to get elected, they don't have any time to do their jobs.

and how many deaths before the left wing heat forces him to cut and run to save his own poll numbers like Clinton did in Mogadishu in 1993? I will always hate him for that move. I lost a friend that day and the way I see it he died for nothing.....

Yes, just as 4000+ American soldiers have died in Iraq for nothing.

But hey!......who cares, right?

The saintly GWB*sh was a "fightin' tuuuururrism!"

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RightWing Faction; ""Them sneaky Eye-rackeees got nukyulur weapons and we'll have a mushroom cloud over us!""

Reality; (uhh, no.....it turns out they completely halted their nuclear program in 1992)

RightWing Faction; "Well then, they got tons of scary WMDs!!"

Reality; (uhh, no.....it turns out they don't. None have ever been found.)

RightWing Faction; "Well then, Saddam is an evil dictator who needed to be eliminated!""

Reality; (uhh,........what about the numerous other dictators doing things far worse than Saddam?)

RightWing Faction; "Well then, we got to bring democracy to the Iraqi people!"

Reality; (uhhh.....we're going to spend 2 trillion dollars bring so-called "democracy" to some other country?!? How about we reinstate it here in America first?)

Yes, just as 4000+ American soldiers have died in Iraq for nothing.

But hey!......who cares, right?

The saintly GWB*sh was a "fightin' tuuuururrism!"


Just pretend they were lowly retards... People who, according to you, do not deserve to decide what they want to do with their life.

Its not much of a stretch for him, he thinks military types are retards already.

No, that is what you said which is why it is the height of hypocrisy for you to whine about Biden's deferments now.

And the deferments were only relevant because Cheney is such a war monger.

If Biden starts pushing to start new wars then you might have a point but as it stands you are just another hypocritical right wing a-hole.

:)

Actually i said nothing about cheyney's deferments. But i do love how 'progressives' are now claiming such deferments are irrelevant for their guy. And now that their hypocrisy is pointed out they accuse the others of being such. At least try to be remotely consistent.:thumbs:

Oh it's full denial and attack mode right now. Anyone remember getting lectured about how Republicans are the people who smear? LMAO

Obama will end it sooner and more responsibly than John McCain is likely to and that is what matters to me.

I never expected Obama to end it immediately. That is part of the reason I supported John Edwards at first. So long as his goal is to end it, which is different from the stated goals of the people from the PNAC, that is what matters to me.

I think if it were up to Joe Biden, he would end it even sooner than Obama would, but he knows it isn't up to him right now.

the only way obama will end it before mccain is that obama will declare victory and withdraw from the battlefield. As long as the taliban/AQ can sit in pakistan and attack afghanistan that battle will go on and on. Especially given the political in pakistan. But you can believe in leprechauns too.