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Dunkirk101
09-23-2008, 09:10 PM
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Iran's leader says 'American empire' near collapse

By SLOBODAN LEKIC, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 46 minutes ago

UNITED NATIONS - Iran's president addressed the U.N. General Assembly Tuesday declaring that "the American empire" is nearing collapse and should end its military involvement in other countries.


Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said terrorism is spreading quickly in Afghanistan and that "the occupiers" are still in Iraq nearly six years after Saddam Hussein was ousted from power in Iraq.

"American empire in the world is reaching the end of its road, and its next rulers must limit their interference to their own borders," Ahmadinejad said.

He accused the U.S. of starting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to win votes in elections and blamed a "few bullying powers" for trying to undermine Iraq's nuclear program.

Ahmadinejad's hardline rhetoric came as no surprise and offered little in the way of compromise at the U.N., where he faces a new round of sanctions if no agreement is reached on limiting Iran's nuclear capabilities.
While he reiterated that the country's nuclear program is purely peaceful, the U.S. and others fear it is aimed at producing enriched uranium to make nuclear weapons.

Iran already is under three sets of sanctions by the U.N. Security Council for refusing to suspend uranium enrichment. Washington and its Western allies are pushing for quick passage of a fourth set of sanctions to underline the international community's resolve, but are likely to face opposition from Russia.

"A few bullying powers have sought to put hurdles in the way of the peaceful nuclear activities of the Iranian nation by exerting political and economic pressures against Iran," he said.

Ahmadinejad also lashed out at Israel on Tuesday, saying "the Zionist regime is on a definite slope to collapse, and there is no way for it to get out of the cesspool created by itself and its supporters."

The Iranian president is feared and reviled in Israel because of his repeated calls to wipe the Jewish state off the map, and his aggressive pursuit of nuclear technology has only fueled Israel's fears.

Ahmadinejad accused "a small but deceitful number of people called Zionists ... (of) dominating an important portion of the financial and monetary centers as well as the political decision-making centers of some European countries and the U.S."

In discussing Afghanistan, he suggested that the presence of U.S. and NATO forces has contributed to a sharp rise in terrorism and a huge increase in the production of narcotics.

He predicted that the war would end in the alliance's defeat.
"Throughout history every force that has entered Afghanistan has left in defeat," Ahmadinejad said.

His speech came just hours after President Bush made his eighth and final appearance before the U.N. General Assembly, urging the international community to stand firm against the nuclear ambitions of Iran and North Korea.

"A few nations, regimes like Syria and Iran, continue to sponsor terror," Bush said. "Yet their numbers are growing fewer, and they're growing more isolated from the world. As the 21st century unfolds, some may be tempted to assume that the threat has receded. This would be comforting. It would be wrong. The terrorists believe time is on their side, so they've made waiting out civilized nations part of their strategy."

At one point during Bush's 22-minute speech, Ahmadinejad turned to Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki and gave a thumb's down.

As in past years, the United States only had a low-level note-taker sitting in a rear seat reserved for the U.S. delegation during the Iranian president's address, said Richard Grenell, spokesman for the U.S. Mission to the United Nations. The U.S. and Iran do not have diplomatic relations.
During interviews ahead of his speech Tuesday, Ahmadinejad blamed U.S.

military interventions around the world in part for the collapse of global financial markets. He said the campaign against his country's nuclear program was solely due to the Bush administration "and a couple of their European friends."

"The U.S. government has made a series of mistakes in the past few decades," Ahmadinejad said an interview with the Los Angeles Times. "The imposition on the U.S. economy of the years of heavy military engagement and involvement around the world ... the war in Iraq, for example. These are heavy costs imposed on the U.S. economy.

"The world economy can no longer tolerate the budgetary deficit and the financial pressures occurring from markets here in the United States, and by the U.S. government," he added

link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080923/...neral_assembly

Travh20
09-23-2008, 09:12 PM
Funny, same thing Hitler and Saddam said.

LionelHutz
09-23-2008, 11:09 PM
He's right, of course. Our disagreement stems from the size of the number.

Napsterbater
09-24-2008, 04:01 AM
Cause, you know, Iran is just on the cusp of being the next global superpower. We should listen to them, or Iran's camel army and flying carpet air force will annihilate our F-22s and M1A2s. Their legions of turban suited businessmen will bankrupt our corporations, just cause they can.

Imagineer
09-24-2008, 04:52 AM
Don't forget that they dozens of guys polishing lamps to send their Djinni sending out to destroy them with their wishes.

es347fan
09-24-2008, 01:14 PM
I keep waiting for one of NY's finest to simply take imadinnerjacket out of circulation.

Travh20
09-24-2008, 02:16 PM
Why do we let people like that come to our country and talk shit about us?

The Praetorian
09-24-2008, 03:29 PM
Why do we let people like that come to our country and talk shit about us?
Because we're Americans. It seems ridiculous, I agree, but if we don't, then, to a degree, we validate their point. Personally, I'd like nothing more than to hear that Ahmadinejad was strip-searched TWICE at JFK (even though he has his own plane) for nothing more than being the shifty-eyed, swarthy, camel-fucker he is, but other then that, I say (in Bob Barker speak) "Mahmoud, you shit-eating, Pierre Cardan-sporting, used car salesman-looking fucker....come on down"!

Travh20
09-24-2008, 03:44 PM
We should just arrest his ass and send him to GITMO. You know the camel fucker is going to cause the world big problems soon. Its like, in 5 years we will be searching for this guy's spider hole anyway, why not just grab him now?

The Praetorian
09-24-2008, 04:03 PM
We should just arrest his ass and send him to GITMO. You know the camel fucker is going to cause the world big problems soon. Its like, in 5 years we will be searching for this guy's spider hole anyway, why not just grab him now?
I agree, but somehow I'm guessing the FT's of the world would throw a tantrum if that ever happened. You see, in their opinion, we would've just detained an "innocent" man, sad as that may be.

IMHO, these people are a virus. GITMO should be renamed MECCA, and we should do our levelheaded best to send every Muslim radical we can find there.

paulc
09-25-2008, 04:37 PM
When Congress gave the green lite to the 'financial bailout' today, it proves that the United States is the worlds financial muscle as well as its military muscle.

The Praetorian
09-25-2008, 04:41 PM
When Congress gave the green lite to the 'financial bailout' today, it proves that the United States is the worlds financial muscle as well as its military muscle.
We're a 13 trillion dollar country. That kinda comes along with the territory.

paulc
09-25-2008, 04:42 PM
Kinda rolls off the tongue that.

Freethinker
09-30-2008, 09:34 PM
By SLOBODAN LEKIC, Associated Press Writer --------

Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said ..... that "the American empire" is nearing collapse and should end its military involvement in other countries.

True.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said ..... terrorism is spreading quickly in Afghanistan

True.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said ..... "the occupiers" are still in Iraq nearly six years after Saddam Hussein was ousted from power in Iraq.

True.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said ..... "the American empire in the world is reaching the end of its road,"

True.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ..... accused the U.S. of starting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to win votes in elections and that a "few bullying powers" are to blame for trying to undermine Iraq's nuclear program.

True.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said ..... U.S.military interventions around the world are in part to blame for the collapse of global financial markets.

True.

________________________________

It is SO hilarious watching all the little ConservaZombies gnashing their teeth and squealing about what a horrible, evil person Mr. Ahmadinejad is.

But then, it must be admitted that he DID commit the ultimate sin, from the Rightwing faction's point of view.

He got on the airwaves and told the unvarnished truth about them and their failed policies and their warmongering.

ROTFLOL.



.........

Travh20
09-30-2008, 11:49 PM
Here we go again, the keyboard ranger is defending our enemies, again. Why dont you move there? WTF is stopping you? How can you live in a country you honestly think is a terrorist country when there is nothing keeping you from leaving? If I felt like you did I would float out of herre to cuba on a raft. maybe you are just full of shit. Of course , that's it!

I can only assume you are a holocaust doubter like him too right? Damn jews do nothing but lie right jackass?

Freethinker
10-01-2008, 02:32 AM
Here we go again, the keyboard ranger is defending our enemies, again.

a) He may be your enemy. He's not mine.

b) I am not "defending him" other than to point out that what he is saying --in the post that begins this thread-- is TRUE.

Why dont you move there? WTF is stopping you?

Several things. My wife of 34 years does not want to move to a foreign country. I have no prospect of a job in a foreign country. I have no prospect of securing housing in a foreign country. I do not know another person from a foreign country. I do not speak a foreign language.

By the way ...... why don't you inform yourself about what is being done by the hard right ConservaFascists in your name, and about all the war crimes they are committing? WTF is stopping you?

How can you live in a country you honestly think is a terrorist country when there is nothing keeping you from leaving?

How can you live here and not know that this country exports terrorism? I am in awe of your ignorance.

I can only assume you are a holocaust doubter like him too right?

No. Not at all. Just because Mr. Ahmadinejad has it absolutely 100% nailed as it regards the warmongering and the crimes and machinations of the U.S. Corporate State --i.e., B*sh and his uber-conservative cronies-- does not mean that I agree with him in every belief he has.

I am 100% convinced that the Holocaust took place, and my deepest sympathy goes out to the Jews; the victims of the fascists in Germany.

And now, we have in this country today the development of a "kinder, gentler" form of fascism.

""While Bush and his rightwing supporters are not classic fascists, and their goals do not include a Holocaust, they have shown a tendency toward such fascist behavior as militarism, racism, destroying civil liberties, repressing the citizenry, crushing labor unions, deceptive propaganda and antidemocratic words and tactics. They are a somewhat lighter version of a very dark predecessor. Friendly fascists may talk of unity and bi-partisanship while, at the same time, they work to co-opt Democratic senators and undercut the public's right to elect its representatives. They may smile and shake hands and promise to earn our trust. However, unmask the friendly fascist and you see an enemy of democracy and civil liberties. You see Hitler-with-a-happy-face, a compassionate Conservative, a kinder-gentler sort of tyrant.""

Travh20
10-01-2008, 09:46 AM
Why am I not suprised you used the holocaust line as an opening to tie Bush to fascism? :rolleyes:

mushroom-eater
10-01-2008, 10:44 PM
Well for starters the U.S. is a very powerful country. It has many allies around the globe. It would take sometime before you can bring it down. Dream on Iran. You have a long way to go. My advise is for you to focus on your people and not with the U.S. coz you will never win. Reality bites huh???

Freethinker
10-02-2008, 09:46 PM
Why am I not suprised you used the holocaust line as an opening to tie Bush to fascism? :rolleyes:

??!?

No "line" or "opening" is needed in order to state the obvious.

primitive man
10-04-2008, 03:19 PM
We're a 13 trillion dollar country. That kinda comes along with the territory.


doesn't mean jack shit when you're broke.

paulc
10-04-2008, 03:21 PM
Doesnt mean much to most people outside the US, broke or not.

The Praetorian
10-05-2008, 03:06 AM
Being wealthy and successful usually doesn't to people who aren't.