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Imagineer
10-04-2008, 03:09 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/04/oj.simpson.verdict/index.html

Simpson has been convicted all twelve charges in the charge in his Las Vegas heist. He will be sentencing in the near future.

Phyrex
10-04-2008, 06:12 AM
Good.

es347fan
10-04-2008, 08:34 AM
The 'juice' just might be singing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIcWh5L9R98) this.

Hopefully, there are no grounds for appeal.

Foolsworth
10-04-2008, 09:03 AM
I shoulda flipped around the cable channels last nite.
I wanted to see Simpson,in his untraditional,sad,gloomy mood.
Because he was unquestionably,not too long ago,one of THE most
jovial { always had a smile } well-liked,admired and even beloved
characters to ever become an American Icon.Yes,he was an Icon.
I mean,let's Bee 4 real.Who dint know what saying OJ meant.
I mean,who even bothered with the guys real first name { Orenthal }.
That and his instant recognition MADE him an Icon.
Can an Icon be a baddy.Apparently,sadfully So.
Does that diminish his accomplishments and possibily regard as THE greatest
running back { I think so } in NFL History. ? I think it may.No one ever talks
about his greatness as a running back.First guy to reach this plateau or that
in running yards.His was the most dynamic cutback in gridiron history.
I used to think Jim Brown was Great,until OJ came around to twist and cut
his way thru defenders.Yes,OJ was THE Greatest running back in Football
history.Even though he was born with rickets,he became a track star and
gridiron great at USC.
But ... quite possibly all for nought.I can't remember the last time someone
talked about the " Juices " Football prowess.
He had gone straight from Mr.Happy face to Mr.Bloodcurtling.A happy-go-lucky
Icon,who greeted other Americans like they actually knew him.I remember a
guy I knew who was in business with his Dad,and a few months after the trial
had a Pic standing next to a very Smiley OJ,in front of his Brentwood manor home.
I thought it was almost Immoral.The Guy was also Catholic and on a trip to L.A.
for a Video convention.he acted like he had done No wrong.Obvioulsy Simpson
was having photo's of himself with Americans for a price.
Well,that's ALL over now.No more strutting,slightly arthritic OJ,hobbling around
with any entourage,actin like his old self.Which is what he became relegated to.
He's put behind bars.Probably till an old man.With an occassional court appearance
on appeal.It's really An American Tradegy.But even more tragic is his voicing of
how he ain't gonna pay The Goldman family a plum nickle,for that $30 Million dollar
civil suit.This Simpson bidness is also THE Greatest Fall from Grace in American
History.From beloved Sports Hero to Loathed Murderer/thug.
Ah ... Live a little,learn a lot.
Only in America.

paulc
10-04-2008, 03:01 PM
It would seem that justice does sometimes prevail.

Foolsworth
10-04-2008, 05:28 PM
It would seem that justice does sometimes prevail.

Why do you think OJ did it.?
Was he pissed off that stuff he gave away free was actually gaining
worth { memorabelia} and he thought he could kinda pull a tough guy
stunt,because the guys whose hotel room he went to had records and
weren't about to make a big fuss over.
The old OJ Logic.

paulc
10-05-2008, 05:17 AM
Why do you think OJ did it.?
Was he pissed off that stuff he gave away free was actually gaining
worth { memorabelia} and he thought he could kinda pull a tough guy
stunt,because the guys whose hotel room he went to had records and
weren't about to make a big fuss over.
The old OJ Logic.

Sounds ok to me.

Foolsworth
10-05-2008, 08:28 AM
Sounds ok to me.

Well Danny.Maybe if'n it was made public that he was a registered Democrat &
was fixin to help elect Obama,than all wood be weld.

paulc
10-05-2008, 09:04 AM
Well Danny.Maybe if'n it was made public that he was a registered Democrat &
was fixin to help elect Obama,than all wood be weld.
Democrat, wise up. Whats that got to do with anything ?

PS: My name aint Danny, ok Richard.

Foolsworth
10-05-2008, 09:51 AM
Democrat, wise up. Whats that got to do with anything ?

PS: My name aint Danny, ok Richard.

I dunno.Ya gots a stupid name,like some form of fuzzy chinese earwax
or Polish gout.

paulc
10-05-2008, 10:26 AM
I dunno.Ya gots a stupid name,like some form of fuzzy chinese earwax
or Polish gout.

Your right, should have chosen 'Dopeysworth'.

rendova
10-06-2008, 08:48 AM
Why do you think OJ did it.?


Once you get away with a double homicide, the thrills in life just don't quite match up.

Foolsworth
10-06-2008, 09:29 AM
Once you get away with a double homicide, the thrills in life just don't quite match up.

Little miracles do happen.Like Louisville's upscale Jeff Ruby Steakhouse
that OJ and entourage traipsed in and seated themself in a private room.
This was the night before the Kentucky Derby and Simpson had been
there years before,even having a picture taken with Owner,Jeff Ruby.
After complaints by the other seated dining guests,OJ and entourage were
thrown out.It made headlnes,and I believe OJ was even considering suing
the place.I say ... go right ahead there OJ.Now that you're a True Bubba.

M&Mdelite
10-07-2008, 12:09 AM
Once you get away with a double homicide, the thrills in life just don't quite match up.
What makes you think he got away with a double homicide? What motive would he have had to murder them? What evidence do you have that the jurors didn't see? Just curious.

DrewM
10-07-2008, 12:35 AM
Well it's great news that OJ - the guy who viciously killed 2 people - is going to jail - quite possibly for the rest of his life. Justice is served.

rendova
10-07-2008, 08:26 AM
What makes you think he got away with a double homicide? What motive would he have had to murder them? What evidence do you have that the jurors didn't see? Just curious.

Blood in his car and house that matched the blood found at the crime scene, Simpson's hair found on Goldman's shirt, bloody socks found at Simpson's home, suicide note and run from the police when the law was closing in, cuts on Mr Simpson's hands, long history of violence against his former wife. This evidence was not planted by the "sinister", "racist" LAPD, this was overwhelming physical evidence against the defendant. Let's face it, he was a stupid crook and left a TON of crap behind.

Motive--anger at his wife for not leaving him a seat at the daughter's dance recital. Ya just don't do that to OJ, former football star and big shot.

PS The world at large would have had more sympathy for him, or at least I would have, if he'd simply accepted and admitted his guilt and said, Yeah, she made me mad, so I killed her....AND her boyfriend. These kinds of crimes are very very common and Joe Blow would have had a 2 day trial and the jury would have spent exactly 20 minutes in convicting him--maybe an hour, so they could've gotten a free lunch.

PS. One of the world's shortest books---My Hunt For the Real Killer by OJ Simpson.

M&Mdelite
10-07-2008, 05:43 PM
Ah, so that's evidence. Most planted evidence!!! The jury saw it was planted, and if they didn't, the Judge could've overruled their findings. I'm not saying he did, or didn't kill them, I'm just saying that the average racist Joe sure as fuck doesn't know, unless they were there. Just sayin'

es347fan
10-07-2008, 06:39 PM
IF he didn't do it, he sure as hell knows who did. What got him off was the high dollar defense team.

He can't get out of what happened in Vegas, because it is one story that didn't stay put.

Foolsworth
10-07-2008, 07:06 PM
The Trial of the Century is not easy to paraphrase.It was complicated,
vastly TOO long and involved.All the expert witnesses an the DNA finding
and what they meant,were worthless.After all it all boiled down to an attentive
and considerate Jury.The OJ Jury was neither.They deliberated for
approximately 4 hours on a 9 month long trial.Shame on them.
They also cheated.OJ knew how the Jury was gonna side on his
behalf,the weekend before the Verdict.Someone in charge of watching the
those sequestered jury members,leaked out to the OJ team that they were
VERY sympathetic to OJ.Maybe on account the glove.Which didn't fit.
Of course ir didn't OJ was instructed to not take his arthritis medicine around
the time of the glove testing.Meaning OJ hands were swollen.
How ... Neato ...huh ?
Or the OJ Dream Team led by Johnny Cockran who insisted almost daily
that it wasn't about race.Then went right ahead and played every race
card feasible.Including drudging up someone who heard Detective Furman use
the " N " word,after he said he can't remember ever using it.
Kinda Neato ... huh ?
Judge ITO was the main culprit.He was SO worried that he'd be seen as
partial or unaccomadatin,especially given such a monumentally big trial
that he ley the Lawyers { Dream Team et.al. } take over the court
proceeding with countless delays and Motions.Ito had an obligation to
stane firm and let the Trial proceed,w/o many of those silly motions.
Granted Chris Dardin and Marcia Clark were NO match for the likes of
a very experienced F.Lee Bailey {who eventually got in trouble for taking bribe
money } and Cockran,Shapiro and team of experts.
There was a Mountain of evidence which led virtually,always,directly to
OJ 's front door.
The Motive you ask.Yes,motive is always key.
Rendova got that part down.OJ was ticked about Not being welcome
at his daughters recital and then finding out Nicole was kinda friendly to
someone { Ron Goldman } after she further decided to SNUB Mr.EGO
run amuck.
Yes,OJ sure had running amuck down pat,as well his gridiron days.
I just heard today,the " Juice " braggin in somber tones about no one
likely to break all the many NFL Rushing titles he owns.
Most 200 Yard games and such.

LionelHutz
10-07-2008, 10:50 PM
The jury saw it was planted, and if they didn't, the Judge could've overruled their findings.

The judge can't overrule the findings of the jury. The jury determines the facts, the judge determines the law.

rendova
10-08-2008, 08:22 AM
Ah, so that's evidence. Most planted evidence!!! The jury saw it was planted, and if they didn't, the Judge could've overruled their findings. I'm not saying he did, or didn't kill them, I'm just saying that the average racist Joe sure as fuck doesn't know, unless they were there. Just sayin'

If you believe the evidence was planted, please cite evidence that it WAS planted. Since you are making this allegation the burden of proof is on YOU.

I have to ask,why you believe it WAS planted?

Because the cops didn't like him?

Because they were bored and thought they'd liven up their day by having multiple detectives, criminalists, lab worker attendants and others involved in a Machiavellian plot to bring down a man they thought was uppity?

An "innocent" man who they just yanked out of the checkout line at Krogers and decided to prosecute for no reason?

I mean ,after all, they could have yanked ME out of the checkout line. Seeing as how they were bored, had no case, no suspects, and no real evidence and just HAD to prosecute on such flimsy evidence.

As for the statement about the average racist Joe believing in OJ's guilt...I, among many many others, had no problem with OJ before this crime took place.

The reason I duislike him and have since 1995 is because he's a murdering cocky SOB who thought the entire country would celebrate his acquittal.

Like I said, a stupid crook.

Just sayin.

rendova
10-08-2008, 08:25 AM
The Trial of the Century is not easy to paraphrase.It was complicated,
vastly TOO long and involved.All the expert witnesses an the DNA finding
and what they meant,were worthless.After all it all boiled down to an attentive
and considerate Jury.The OJ Jury was neither.They deliberated for
approximately 4 hours on a 9 month long trial.Shame on them.
They also cheated.OJ knew how the Jury was gonna side on his
behalf,the weekend before the Verdict.Someone in charge of watching the
those sequestered jury members,leaked out to the OJ team that they were
VERY sympathetic to OJ.Maybe on account the glove.Which didn't fit.
Of course ir didn't OJ was instructed to not take his arthritis medicine around
the time of the glove testing.Meaning OJ hands were swollen.
How ... Neato ...huh ?
Or the OJ Dream Team led by Johnny Cockran who insisted almost daily
that it wasn't about race.Then went right ahead and played every race
card feasible.Including drudging up someone who heard Detective Furman use
the " N " word,after he said he can't remember ever using it.
Kinda Neato ... huh ?
Judge ITO was the main culprit.He was SO worried that he'd be seen as
partial or unaccomadatin,especially given such a monumentally big trial
that he ley the Lawyers { Dream Team et.al. } take over the court
proceeding with countless delays and Motions.Ito had an obligation to
stane firm and let the Trial proceed,w/o many of those silly motions.
Granted Chris Dardin and Marcia Clark were NO match for the likes of
a very experienced F.Lee Bailey {who eventually got in trouble for taking bribe
money } and Cockran,Shapiro and team of experts.
There was a Mountain of evidence which led virtually,always,directly to
OJ 's front door.
The Motive you ask.Yes,motive is always key.
Rendova got that part down.OJ was ticked about Not being welcome
at his daughters recital and then finding out Nicole was kinda friendly to
someone { Ron Goldman } after she further decided to SNUB Mr.EGO
run amuck.
Yes,OJ sure had running amuck down pat,as well his gridiron days.
I just heard today,the " Juice " braggin in somber tones about no one
likely to break all the many NFL Rushing titles he owns.
Most 200 Yard games and such.

Good post, Foolworth, but I'll always consider the Lindbergh trial the real "Trial of the Century".
That case had everything a sensationalistic public loves.

M&Mdelite
10-08-2008, 07:27 PM
If you believe the evidence was planted, please cite evidence that it WAS planted. Since you are making this allegation the burden of proof is on YOU.
The Defense proved it, and it was their job, and not mine.

The jurors and Defense saw that Fuhrman planted evidence at the crime scene and falsified official police reports and other documents in an effort to circumvent the justice system and achieve a conviction against O.J. They saw evidence that Fuhrman planted the glove.

It's not for me to prove, so why don't you prove that the jury was wrong?

Foolsworth
10-08-2008, 08:06 PM
The Defense proved it, and it was their job, and not mine.

The jurors and Defense saw that Fuhrman planted evidence at the crime scene and falsified official police reports and other documents in an effort to circumvent the justice system and achieve a conviction against O.J. They saw evidence that Fuhrman planted the glove.

It's not for me to prove, so why don't you prove that the jury was wrong?

You just stuck on stupid.Like the OJ jury.
Does the fact that the Las Vegas Jury deliberated for 13 hours.
And the OJ/Cockran Trial took appx. 4 hrs. for a 9 month presentation.
That's almost unheard of.Especially when Juror's have a literacy problem.
Lest of all attention span deficit.

M&Mdelite
10-08-2008, 08:49 PM
Especially when Juror's have a literacy problem.
Lest of all attention span deficit.
Foolsworth, I didn't realize that you were one of the jurors. Have you improved? :lolhit:

Foolsworth
10-08-2008, 09:40 PM
Foolsworth, I didn't realize that you were one of the jurors. Have you improved? :lolhit:

There are only a few rational explanations for the OJ Simpson Murder
Trial jury's verdict.

1.) They were plum pooped out and had virtually so much input to
consider they went batty and just said the hell with it and went with race.

2.) They were so scared out of their gourds of a race riot they just
did the safest thing available.Namely put on an act and delayed a day
the verdict with a half credible excuse they needed to have a piece
of evidence presented them to hash over.

3.) They had no intention of acting like Juror's and were pressured to
give a certain verdict or face a troubling future in their respective
neighborhoods with a race verdict.

4.) They were bought off and had little reason to actually consider all
the evidence,when the alternative was either get some pay back or
Vote guilty and face real threats back in yer neighborhoods.

5.) Vote Guilty and face possible White Lynchings in the streets.
Not unlike the Rodney King Dilemna.

rendova
10-09-2008, 08:09 AM
It's not for me to prove, so why don't you prove that the jury was wrong?

Some of the jury has already admitted being wrong, 2 or 3 members........not that I remember. I didn't follow this case much. It was duller than dirt, kinda like the defendant.

jamesdalphonse
10-09-2008, 03:43 PM
I hope not, but I wouldn't be surprised if a year or so down the road that convinction gets overturned on appeal.